A forum community dedicated to BMW owners and enthusiasts. You have to run Meth to break 400whp, correct? Without a doubt. Drives: '20 . I thought about s55 firstly, but lots of guys said that it would be much harder to install and tuning will cost more too. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Great to know about the Pure transmissions. As we all know, the N54 is the german equivalent of the 2JZ. Push the connector into the new socket housing as far as you can with your fingers. Whoever owns this car is my hero. B58 turbo swap? Do you have any videos on youtube? From $586.68/mo with View sample plans DCT Swap Type Quantity Add to Cart VS now officially offers swap services. Appreciate 0 Quote Possible, but as others have said. However once you start upgrading the turbo, even though it's a closed deck block, it doesn't have the forged international components. I have a E46 Coupe race car currently with a M54 3.0 Motor. Also, this is going to be a 5 figure cost swap. The B58 has not bested the N54. Buy it. Bimmerpost Model Selection. My question are. M4. Its way better and stiffer than the f30, You're talking $10,000 on the swap alone! Refreshments available. F30POST > Technical Forums > N20, N26, B46, B48 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > N55/B58 swap into N20 Touring. However, if you're trying to run heavy E85 mixtures you'll probably cap this stage 1 Dorch HPFP well before 550whp. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. 1. Obviously that is an impossibility and we should do our best to prevent any further misinformation from spreading. Not when 335is are as cheap as they are. Anything is possible, just time and money. I am intrigued to see a DCT equipped S58. Before we begin, I have an F31 Touring, which was only offered in the US with the N20/N26, B48 or N47. Not worth it at all. VS - Upgraded Fuel Line 6AN E-Chassis F-Chassis. It would be a pure race car build at that point, which, if you're doing such a thing, is a heavy chassic and poor choice for a race car anyway. Drives: 2011 LCI 320i. shouldn't be too bad considering that the B58 sits on the F chassis, B58 block is pretty similar to the S58. G22Model Year: 2020 + Provided you can get traction, it would chomp a lot of cars. Try and keep the blade of the screwdriver on the rubber insulation while pushing to avoid puncturing the wires. I guess that's one way to keep the single turbo sound and getting S55 power levels - from what I've seen the B58 is a beast with a ton of tuning potential. I remember Terry saying somewhere that the factory fueling is capped at right around 400 whp and the only way around it is TBI, PI, Meth, etc. ! A twin scroll turbocharger increases efficiency thereby decreasing turbo spool time, increasing power, and allows the cylinders to run cooler. Yes, there are major hard limits to what the factory car will supply fuel-wise. The whole powertrain system and electronics will need to be modified, this is a complete custom change. How does it's Crank Hub do compared to the S55? I don't know what the point would be to swab a b58 and use a standalone when going to an m54b30 turbo with standalone should be a little easier. I would reach out to them as a resource, they'll probably be ablee to provide some insight into the process, even if they worked with an S55 rather than a B58. E46Model Year: 2000 - 2006. A. Autoputzer 160 Replies. Rep. 19. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. G30Model Year: 2017 + . Does anyone know if you can put a BMW B58 engine into a 2011-2013 BMW 335i coupe (N55 engine), Also curious if this would work for the 2007-2011 335i coupe. I'm sure it'd still be a nightmare but less of a nightmare than a b58 swap. New Member. Come join the discussion about Bimmerfest events, production numbers, programming, performance, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! 08-12-2021, 12:16 PM. In Roundel magazine July 2020, Alex McCulloch writes, "An engine swap is not for the faint of heart" and also says, " the last 10% [of the swap] can be 90% of the heartache". So if everything is stock, I'd bet on the B58 over the N54/N55. Rather than swap in a stock transmission I went ahead and did an HP70 swap out of a diesel 430d. Tags 320i e90 e92 engine swap n20. You'd need some aftermarket mods as well. We in North America do not know the E87 nor the N46 so we likely can't be of much help. Do you know if there's any chasis differences when it comes to the 335i and 328i? Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it, I don't have much knowledge to help you. F40Model Year: . 95C9EB54-ACFF-4E23-AD5D-8C082172A175.jpeg. Id entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine). M4. It looks like the one you swapped in is lighter weight with all those cut outs. That's pretty cool. However, they only offer products for 2013+ N55 engines. B58 M2 is the perfect combo IMO. But I could be talking out my ass so please correct me if I'm wrong. JavaScript is disabled. E90 / E92Model Year: 2007 - 2013. Yes it was done to the T at the end but only because the parts were outsourced dead cheap and it still cost the person $10k with everything. E81 / E82 . I feel like it would have been cheaper to get a Supra and then dump a few upgrades but very excited to see how this goes if you ever find more info on it! F30 335i xDrive PWG - MPPK Flash, Got a new motor and the hpfp is different, To become a vendor visit: https://bit.ly/ss-vendor-apply. This replacement charge pipe features all-aluminum construction, high-quality glossy black finish, CNC machined flanges, 2 optional 1/8" NPT methanol bungs, OEM style mounting hardware for a direct fit, and a lifetime warranty. Cannot found anything on the web. 75. Join Date: Jun 2017 . 8. B58 swap out questions. I replaced it with an M3 (e90). G22Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F32 / F33Model Year: 2013 - 2019. It would make more sense and be much easier to install a N52B30 from an older 1 or 5 series. We should have more pans ready by March". Its not worth it at all. Welcome to N54Tuning, your one stop shop for all your BMW Tuning and BMW Performance Modifications for the N54, N55, N20, N26, S55, B58/B48 and other BMW platforms! We realised that the original 325i had a thicker inner cover in the rear wheel arches to reduce road noise. It would require WAY to much work to even be remotely worth it. Stock B58 Flywheel wont fit, it'll rub against the starter. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. recently blew up my stock HP50 transmission in my 340i. Can I swap to an S58? I wouldn't call this a "swap" as you can't just swap the engine. You are using an out of date browser. I can't tell you for sure, but there are a couple of guys on IG who have S55 swapped an F31. Such a better motor than the N55. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. This makes no sense, but I love it. The 340i downpipe is machined from SS304 aircraft-grade stainless steel and are tig welded in hous M4. The second N52 mod we're discussing is a performance intake. now ive been told it is very possible and that it can be done but its going to take alot of money putting this in but im willing to do it. The BMS Elite is the highest quality B58 charge pipe upgrade on the market. I wouldnt. It'll require all wiring, DME, trans and all assoc computers steering, then all interior tech to match too such as cluster AC radio etc. I do love the M240i but a 335i E92 has been my dream car for yeeaaarrss. This thread was never updated, but was perhaps updated on social media elsewhere: so has anyone successfully swapped a B58 into an F30 which was previously an N20 ? It's been done before. This is very cool, I've been looking at more information on B58 swaps because the N55 in my 435 isn't doing particularly great.. when it blows I really want to swap a B58 because I dislike the N55. E90/E91/E92/E93 (2006 - 2013) N20/B48 swap 2008 E92 320i. Stage 2. When you purchase through links on our site, we may earn an affiliate commission, which supports our community. I think the fact that the OP hasn't said anything shows a lot. Still saving up for the car itself. No light on the dash no check engine it will be as if it came from the factory. B58 In an E39 Is it possible? Also I made a choice with b58, because I thought in that time that with supra release tuners would pay much more attention for this platform. There is a guy on IG with an F31 who just sourced 440i B58 motor and will be doing the swap in next few months. 4. Everything should bolt up to the 435 correct? pretty sure the motor and setup would fit, just would be custom and expensive. MTC Motorsport BMW M140i M240i 340i 440i 540i and 740i 4.5" stainless steel decat downpipe for B58 engine only This will NOT fit the 2018 onwards models with the PPF filter unless it has been coded out and can be removed. On the first time I couldnt decide about which engine I want. E-Chassis DCT Swap $6,500.00 Tax included. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Hello guys i know that this is not the appropriate forum thread to write this, But i am planning on swaping a B58 engine in my BMW 120i E87 2005 but i have lots of questions about it. I think better off just upgrading to M2 Comp but still cool to see. i saw a lot of e46 engine swap on internet. The original 325i was quieter on gravel roads in the rear compartment compared to the transformed car. Appreciate 0 Quote 04-23-2022, 05:40 PM #5: turnsignalslol. The swap will be very expensive and for that cost you'd be better off putting that money towards buying a car with a B58 in it. 5. Location: Hamburg Fire Co. Field House, 1127 South Fourth St, Hamburg, PA 19526. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. So much so that I'd prefer it over the N55. At least one of them has to be your style. IF, and I do mean IF the B58 is better than the N54, by transitive property the B58 is then better than the 2JZ. Thread Tools: Search this Thread 01-05-2018, 06:57 AM #1: billabum. The main candidate for an engine swap is the B58 powerplant. E90 / E91 / E92 / E93Model Year: 2006 - 2011. Location: Los Angeles, CA and Phoenix, AZ. Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. Very interesting swap, so if I understand you right, you have a B58 swapped into your 320i xDrive? Now this is interesting. F90Model Year: 2018 + Previous Generations; . 1 Reply More posts you may like Sponsor: Ontelaunee Region AACA. Expecting to get a typical response to this question like "Just buy a 335i" but I digress. If you really want an E92, I mean damn, that car came with the N54, N55, and S65. Has anyone try or do a b58 swap into a e30? Pure's built transmission is probably the absolute best option for upgraded transmissions we have right now, but also the most expensive coming in at $6000 for their Stage 1 transmission. Just buy an M240i 6MT if you want a B58 in the sportiest manual chassis it came in. ago Funny that I should stumble on this thread . The B58 has not bested the N54. They said that its harder to install in pre lci f30 with n20, how they did, cause of big difference between pre lci and lci in electronic system. 5. . Saw this post linked from the 6MT trans limit discussion. But I don't know if that exists yet, and many if not most features in the car would work after besides the engine. The "Stuck-in-Comfort" mode issue should be now fixed for all cars. Funny that I should stumble on this thread . Read up on the N20 timing chain failures; one of the worst engines ever designed, IMO. Sell your 320i and swap the plates. BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > BMW E90/E92/E93 3-series General Forums > Regional Forums > Australia > BMW E90 320i engine swap to 335i. Very interested in seeing more info on this build. Despite the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo as compared to a single single-scroll turbo, a true twin turbo setup mirrors the benefits of a twin-scroll turbo. This motor is very easy to remove,,,plenty of room in the engine compartment,,,,,hopefully I can do the job in the aloud factory time limit of 16 hour,,,,,today of 6 hours of work,,,,I removed the engine and trans,,,removed the old engine,,,swapped over the new engine,,,,and swapped over the intake manifold,alternator,a/c compressor and starter Although cost is higher you'll be getting a new built transmission and not a used one. Id sooner swap a boat anchor instead of the N20, therere about worth the same. Do you have more photos of the swap process? I'd entertain the science of installing a B58 engine into a 2010 e61 535xi wagon (N54 engine) 1 _____ Use a 5/64" (2mm) flat blade screwdriver to "push" the connector from the back of the socket housing. He must be an electronics genius to make every system on the car work as stock with that swap B58. 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