Maybe a high school classmate possibly but I dont know. The journey of this iconic knife has been exciting to discover. Many GIs bought these knives and carried them during the war in Vietnam, including my father, who bought on in the exchange in Takhli, Thailand, and wore it during missions over North Vietnam. However, the essential features of the knife have remained constant throughout the life of the knife. apart. It may add to your history file. It appears that in 2006, Ontario Knife Company became the current vendor to the DoD of the Jet Pilot Survival Knife under the National Stock Number (NSN): 7340-00-098-4327. Not looking to sell it. This military specification document would become the standard for further improvements and changes to the pilot survival knife throughout the years. US Military utility multi tool knife, no lanyard. So both of mine in the first post are wartime? Model number 5686. Thanks for taking the time to read. I used it for Scouting till 1968. These are the true originals that went to the war and every other one after that was made after the war. I always assumed it was a Marine issued Kabar knife. Mine is a well-worn obviously military example, with a grey pommel top and worn leather sheath with steel tip. The story of this knife seems to begin in 1953, when the DoD announced to private industry their specifications for a standardized survival knife for pilots to interested vendors in Military Specification MIL-K-8662 (16 October 1953). Because of this, an exact dating system is impossible. Powered by Invision Community, US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY. The survival machete is great. However, because of Marbles premature manufacturing of the knife before it was awarded a government contract, the rest of the world gained the privilege to own this knife. I've heard arguments on both sides, but as of yet I'd be uncomfortable moving the positions beyond the level of opinion. This guide to dating Camillus knives is focused on the Camillus-stamped knives only. All of these make the recipe for a truly great knife that deserves our attention. I have sent you an email to see how I may be able to help. Some extremely valid points! The blade not adopted had a flat blade with plastic Resinox pommel. Made after march 1985 to 2006. the knife is a Camillus model number 5733. One is the "Shark.". [emailprotected], Thanks for letting me know that, Murphy. Dear Major,I have had this knife for 30 years when I picked one up at local sporting goods store ,it served me well but, sadly had it stolen a few years ago.my question is how to safely (without too much damage to tang or butt plate (large nut square hole) to change handle ? where possible. Otherwise, it would be much easier to go through their files to find out which Ka-bar knives were made when. It will not be long before you are won over by the versatility and practicality of the Air Force Survival Knife. By contrast, the current DoD procurement process is much more refined and regulated. Bone stag and CR guard made in I hope this helps. One of the tasks that this knife was designed to accomplish was helping pilots and aircrews egress their downed aircraft or to help first responders extract them from their downed aircraft. Stagged Rosewood, CR guard Two other bidders decided that the knife was worth at least 4X more than what I thought the knife was worth to me, so one of them has it. 1 2 3 Items 1 - 12 of 27 Show per page Sort By Camillus Bombat 6" Pocket Knife #19484 $17.99 If possible, seek the opinion of multiple experts before making a solid decision. the font is a bit off but hard to tell apart if you do not have the two So, as far as I can tell the best evidence indicates that these were Army Air Force knives and not Navy knives. Not all Ka-bar knives will have a serial number, but checking this fine detail would make sense where possible. The good news is that I found multiple ways to determine how old your Camillus knife is. It isnt worth that much plus its actually a pretty good knife. Mine has a blued blade and crossguard. Most would say no to such a deed. knives under boxes and paperwork. Any Further Details or assistance is greatly appreciated. You can jump to the following sections if youre in a hurry, but I would advise that you dont skip this part. ? originals and always set off an alarm when looking for an original Example would be you have crashed landed and might be on your side up in the air. Likewise, dont just take their dates for it. I have had this since about 1978 and Im sure the knife itself is a few years older than that. This is a testimony to the ingenuity of the design team that developed the knife at the Marbles company. survival kit knife with straight line marking. The original design of this 5" blade is, I believe, a pre-war Marbles design which was known as the "Ideal", a #45. 1200 dozen made in Like it was with dating kissing crane knives, establishing the era that a Ka-bar knife came from can be a bit challenging. Camillus was so successful a knife brand that other knifemakers contracted them to manufacture their blades. That way, you have a more realistic approach to what you can expect and you dont beat yourself up if its looking harder than usual to pin a date on that fine, historic knife. Theyre not like the other vintage war knives Ive dated because theyre not fighting knives. Is this unusual? I may be wrong but it may have been produced between 1970-1990, maybe in Asia. I personally looked into every draw and found these Another Kent with stagged Rosewood, brass pins and etched. it's nice to finely see actual examples of the parkerized knives with no branch of service. The stamping was kind of inconsistent from my research. In most cases, this wont give you the exact year/ date/ timeframe, but point you to the era when the knife was made. It was made from a spring off a model T. The sheath was made from a leather belt off a steam tractor. spacer arrangements. Jan / meng aerospace engineering / flavoring homemade yogurt with jello . the knife is a Camillus model number 5733. The knife went through a couple of different vendors over its life cycle. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Later, after service members began returning from Vietnam, the military-grade issued knives began to be seen on the market. We can go down the list for all the contractors. Theyre not like the other vintage war knives Ive dated because theyre not fighting knives. I believe the two holes in the blade guard was to dummy cord the knife. Hello, Before you can regard them as a collectors item, though, you need to know that you are working with the, Read More How to Tell How Old a Barlow Knife Is by Yourself (Charts, Stamps, and More)Continue, I have written different guides on how to date different knives to a specific era but this one is different. Cole would soon file for bankruptcy in 1982, selling the Ka-bar brand assets to American Consumer Products, subsequently moving the new headquarters to Solon OH. Frank reports that Marbles was supplying the Ideal to the Government as early as 1934. The Camillus S1765P USAF Utility Knife Tobias Gibson 7.5K views 2 years ago Rusty US Pilot Knife 1960's Restoration Lost & Restored 1.2M views 1 year ago Five US Military Pocket Knives from. Hand marked on the Ken Spielvogel - The "Accumulator" of knives- "The Talking Knives". I would, thus, rather you look at the knife itself rather than trying to use the sheath to make a judgment. While researching this knife I discovered that Camillus, the same manufacturer as the iconic Kabar fighting knife, was the main producer of these knives. I own one of these knives and recently became interested in its history when one was found in a japanese built WWII tunnel system in a mountain in Northern Luzon, Philippines. Do you have any additional information on what the 6-89 is and how it fits in the history. Thanks for sharing. They are hard to find. The design was not adopted. Curiously enough, my knife does not have the Camillus trademark name stamp anywhere on the knife or the sheath. It is a Japanese made copy of the US Air Force Survival knife and was sold through the US military exchanges. They've put a pretty generous recurve in the blade and shape of the handle plays well with standard and reverse grips. I have never heard it being issued in the Navy but can say without a doubt many all of us flight crew members were issued one. Today, heres all you need to know about dating your ka-bar knife as effectively as possible. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Don't know how durable or even if it is any good. It has a decent leather scabbard with no hole in the tip and leather cords intact, as well as the stone with similar markings as others Ive seen. This was one of JavaScript is disabled. J5 Forest King etched with prototype J-5 on the blade. Mikedon thanks for posting the pictures. Find out more below. I just bought this knife from Ontario Knife Company. What is the white dot on the handle? I have three of these babies from my flying days with the U. S. Navy. existence. Thus, finding ways of reducing the bulk of the Aviation Life Support Equipment (ALSE) assisted in the overall weight considerations for flying. of Tom Williams, Camillus factory historian, I have assembled the Im assuming the knife is an earlier production but, as its a 5 inch blade, it has to be after 1961. flat sided pommel to be used for hammering prior to the adoption of the hex There won't be any pommel markings on this one. Note the scabbards with and without sheet Now, contractors didn't just immediately stop what they were doing and make the transition, they continued with the existing product before the transition. I know my knives - maybe not as well as my mother - but enough to write helpful guides for you. Where neither is possible, its best to stay away. I have a MK2 copy that I bought in the US Army AAFES exchange in West Germany in the mid-1980s. My name is Steve and i live in Australia..I have recently started collecting knives from the Vietnam era..I just purchased 1 on ebay but the more i try to confirm the sellers claim the more i become frustrated and confusedplease help me. Bright blade (no property mark) initial production referred to as a 5-inch hunting knife, bright blade USN now referred to as the Mark 1, USN ricasso stamped with parked blade (corrosion resistant treatment compliance), late procurements with applied MARK 1 ricasso stampings. I know how well "Orvet" makes customs. Camillus was also notorious for sometimes mixing up the tang stamps. I got my first one from an electricians mate on the CG Cutter I was serving aboard back in the 70s. They adopted the single pin He started importing and selling German-made knives to his U.S. audience. quick. Orig. I hope this is the right place to make this post.sorry if not. if it was in Vietnam it must have been with some other folks not the US Your guidelines seem to contradict themselves:The knife has a thin, pinned pommelWW2 knife pommels are peened on the knife, not pinnedWhich is it: they are pinned or they are not?Please let me know, than you. Ka-bar did not just make straight knives or folding knives. brass pins holding stagged bone over black plastic liners. The bit telltale difference is the sharpened false edge. RdksTreasures. There are many variables to take into consideration and a general genealogy of dating can be made with Mark 1 knives. The gray painted Pommel indicates that it is issued to the Navy. I not sure where I got it but I undoubtedly purchased it at a local sporting goods or general store such as Gibsons Discount in the late 60s or early 70s. Camillus stagged bone grips with brass pins. I sent some pictures I have of mine, Major. This is the factory reference You have a very scarce Camillus MARK 1. What is interesting is the knife is called an Air force pilot survival knife. Some had been made before the time, and they dont have the exact specs as above. But so many times the answer can be quite complicated. The 6 inches blade was shortend to 5 inches keeping the profile and was then accepted. Has can openers, awl, driver. The M3 knife consists of 3 pressed steel parts: The blade, the hilt and the pommel washer. By the close of 1943, a satisfactory method was applied. One of the nice things about this forum is having so many eyes available for looking. with steel domed rivets. Q30: WW II Prototype made for the 6 inch Hunting knife Now, we know already that this, Read More How to Tell If A 1918 Trench Knife Is Real (5+ Unique Methods)Continue. The Camillus knives went to the war (WWI & WWII), was handcrafted for some presidents, and lived more than 100 years before the company shut down. 5665 J86: Prototype dated 3/25/1942 made for the Army . is the only one that survived the Marines. Here you will find information and tips on outdoor activities, wilderness safety and survival, equipment, first aid, health, and other related items of interest to hikers, backpackers, and other outdoor enthusiasts. Show me your knife, and I'll tell you who you are. the M3 pommel and guard to improve their knife and help conserve parts. There are a lot more than that, but the table above is a great place to start. By This knife looks a lot like the original and with a little bit of use can be made to look old real quick. If you send me your email address I can send you photos. But your saying the WW2 knives dont have pins at all?, just peened? I had the Colonial and Geneva knives flipped the wrong way, You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Camillus wanted to send the knife with a hack saw blade attached to Saunders knives; and a few more knives under contract. pins marked Kent, As above with different tang markings, still a Kent. Im happy to see that youre entering the world of knife collection. I have several good photos of the knife which Id be happy to forward but there doesnt seem to be a way to send them to you on this site. Meet The Camillus Pro Staff Survivalists, Hunters, Military and more Camillus Design Partners Knives, machetes and tools designed by the best in the business Social Photos #camillus Acme United Corporation 1 Waterview Drive, Suite 200, Shelton, CT 06484 Did Camillus Make Other Brands Knives on Contract? I also have the original sheath though the front pocket and stone have disappeared. In 1962, the knife was modified by reducing the blade to 5" in length. The blade is very sharp but has surface deterioration and the guard seems rather dull. down, risers and lines. These fakes are even made with materials that age fast, tricking you into thinking that the knife has indeed seen a lot of years. factory or used by them. It was common for everything in a survival vest to have a lanyard. This prototype is date 5/13/1954. This is usually where I first look at when dating knives. The Air Force Survival Knife has had a storied, yet obscure, history. It has two blades; one is a standard 2.5-inch cutting blade and the other is a locking. After vetting the information against the published government standards for this knife and the government procurement process, what emerged was a unique story of an iconic knife that has found its way from the military to the civilian outdoor world and into the hearts of many owners and users. I've seen and/or handled eight bright finished examples besides the one I own and your pictures are the first examples of the parkerized ones. Appreciating the persistence you put into your site and in depth information you provide. knife with Rosewood plain grips and brass pins. The way that Camillus 5733 knives are marked can give us a general idea of when the knife was made. and steel domed rivets but with a different grind from above. I have a one of the knives that came out of a survival kit. If you dont find your stamp and logo from there, use the official stamp/ logo guide from the official Ka-bar website as seen below: There is a lot that you can tell about the Ka-bar knife from the markings on the blade. Otherwise, have someone who does. Hoping to try and date them but I am finding conflicting information. No date or manufacturer is stamped anywhere. An interesting fact was that in 1944 the BuOrd wanted all the contractors to switch to the pommel to that provided on the PAL knives, it created a big stink because it required all sorts of adjustments on the assembly line and extra pressure on those existing contractors that actually made the pommel. December 15, 2017 in EDGED WEAPONS. These influences upon the procurement system tempered the DoD design features of the knife. S1408: This is a prototype Camillus sent in to alter the knife for training and issue. This knife fits in with If you dont have both the repro and original side by side, you might not be able to tell the difference sometimes. The condition of the knife is worn, but otherwise good. In June of '60, the contract was changed to requiring a peened pommel (as was used on all later production). by jerryd6818 Mon Jun 03, 2013 3:06 am, Return to Camillus Cutlery Collector's Forum, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. Camillus stagged bone grips with brass pins. Hi John, with the government to sell the design and know how to make the knife. An unmarked prototype hunter with Stagged Rosewood and Just looks cute. Adolph Kastor immigrated to the U.S.A. when he was 14 and worked in his uncles hardware company. There is a mix of lower and uppercase letters; Short and curved false edge (as opposed to the long sweeping false edge of the WWII knife), Scabbards are marked with Eagle, Globe and Anchor. I would classify them as USAAF knives. I am 63 yo and have had this knife since I was a teenager. As well, it must be remembered that this knife was designed to address a specific need for the U.S. military and was not intended to be used outside of that context. Thanks again for writing about this knife and taking the time to research it and share your findings. Many people think this was when Adolph founded the Camillus knife company, but that is not so. Very nice! The primary document that describes the various features of the Air Force Survival Knife is Military Specification MIL-K-8662 (16 October 1953). Ka-bar knives are not made like they used to be anymore. Yes the Vietnam War lasted until 1975 but the majority of US combat Required fields are marked *. forces were gone by 1973. Examine your knife pocket identifying mark on one of the blades. I dont believe they were pinned in that era. I find no marks on it but it was well used with rust stains. Ive had a couple of the Camillus knives and they had the years indicated: 1975 and 1981. If it were possible to convert you surely would be able to! I cant glean a date of manufacture from the stamp. With areas like Germany, Italy, China, and the rest of the world getting the praises for coming up with truly timeless knives, the USA takes the glory for this one. US MILITARIA FORUM - COLLECTORS PRESERVING HISTORY You would often find knife collectors and enthusiasts who know a lot about these blades at knife shows. Did your Camillus knife go to the war? Beyond that I do not know if they were swapped out. We were allowed to keep them when dicharged. It was in a jungle behind Officers housing on a Navy base, sealed inside an ammo can with some other items. 5684 L77A: Camillus tried to talk Naval Ordnance into using factory collection. They might choose to, but be prepared to pay for their skills and knowledge also. Held off rust well, and it is pretty solid. If you dont go to knife shows, you might also have some luck with veteran knife collectors in your locale. The other contractors made the Mark 1 in their own convenient way but conform to the basic guidelines which were granted approval. These two knives are commonly identified as WW2 pilots knives. Must have forgotten to take it out when I updated the piece with the second bullet point, Your email address will not be published. As such, finding a definitive history of the development and procurement of this knife is difficult to reconstruct. The Camillus Cutlery Company was one of the oldest knife manufacturers in the United States with roots dating back to 1876. Camillus produced the Jet Pilot Survival Knife with a 5-inch blade from 1961-2006. But this is Ontario. Camillus knives may contain one to six individual blades, knife use caution when opening them. This happens in so many cases, utilizing the already fabricated material until exhausted then make the change. These items Skip, I'm not sure that we can or can not label either of those knives as genuine Mark 1's. He believes these were ordered in 04/05/44. Ontarios model became the Aircrew Survival and Egress Knife, System (ASEK) based on the published requirements by the U.S. Army. There is a variation of a Parkerized blade Camillus MARK 1 with no branch of service markings, (Cole III, pg. Camillus Keto Folding Knife $29.99 2 Reviews Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Choff Folding Knife Black $19.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus LK6 Folding Knife $22.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Wedge Folding Knife $19.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Carbide Edge Folding Knife $36.99 Notify Me When In Stock Camillus Heater II Neck Knife The Marine Corps then also renamed the knife the USMC Mark 2 Combat Knife. The 1954 update calls for the knife to have a sharpened clip point blade and an additional rivet to the sheath. We have seen it in outfitter stores, marketed on the internet, and may even have owned one. That is surely a lot of information to keep track of. I believe youre more interested in dating the vintage ones, though, so the other era guides on that list are best suited to your needs. PS If you buy the knife today, the seller might include a newer sheath just to promote better knife safety for you. Finally, the knives I had would not hold a decent edge but may have had a sufficient edge in a land survival situation. You could find either the USMC or USN MK2 marking on the knife. Interesting information. rivets, Kent Sportsman with etching and stagged bone and large the M3 and the M4 reproductions. If there is anything else you want to know which I missed, do let me know in the comments section or reach out via the contact page. Knives made by top companies were featured in catalogs that were either internally maintained or sent out to dealers and collectors. The leather for the grip will be cut into washers, 1/8 inch in thickness. Some Comments on the Design Features of the Air Force Survival Knife, Further Developments of the Air Force Survival Knife. You pull the knife out but drop it. silver. This knife has been around for many years. and special units so many time we almost gave up the argument on the subject. This is the knife as adopted, kept for the selected. metal tip protectors. The condition of the leather sheath is what would one would expect to be from late 1960s to early 1970s vintage as it was found at the time, which has not degraded since. Ive read reviews that claim the new ones (from Ontario) are not as good. hunting knives from parts on hand. This design was accepted, and the military specifications documents were updated to reflect Marbles concept in MIL-K-8662A (04 November 1957). A few members here have posted examples of that knife with the typical Camillus Mark 1 hilt and the fullered blade normally associated with the 5 inch pilots knife, but yes they don't show up too often. They did not adopt this knife, as we know the M3 was by orvet Thu May 30, 2013 2:01 pm, Post Marble produced several thousand knives for field testing and delivered them to the U.S. Air Force between 1957-1959. It is marked U.S.N over MARK I. The knife has been in continuous service with the Department of Defense for over sixty years. The others that I've seen have the later arched tang stamp. True, those origins are shrouded in a lot of poor occurrences but the knives stayed on to mark those eras and the good work of manufacturers in, Read More How to Tell the Age of a Marbles Knife by Yourself (5 Methods)Continue, The Case Kodiak is one of the most interesting exports from the company and continues to command a high price today. Both are Camillus but one has a 1" longer blade. It was enlightening to discover that there is very little information available on the background and origins of this knife. (222) $59.00. The similarities to Mark I knives are obvious, but they were procured and manufactured under different contracts and specifications. Paranitrophenol was first registered in the United States in 1963 as a fungicide incorporated into leather products and hides as a preservative. They is a lot more ingredients to the batch of pudding for these knives. From DIY approaches to unconventional models and even taking the knife to experts, one of these methods will get you a proper timeline of your knife. This happens quite often. The grip will be made of leather in compliance with Federal Standard KK-L-165. The tip of the sheath is pointed and the back part of leather extends beyond the front for two lanyard holes. Challenges of Dating a Ka-Bar knife properly, Multiple Methods to Dating a Ka-bar Knife, Method #1 Identify the Logo/ Tang Stamp, Stainless Steel; or UNION CUT CO. & OLEAN, N. Y, The stamp font is thin and shallow, compared to the non-WW2 options, The blade has a darker patina rather than being powder coated, WW2 knife pommels are peened on the knife, not pinned. Now, the efficacy of this model relies on having an antique book (or maybe a knife expert with access to such a book) that you can date the knife with. The table below shows you different tang stamp designs and when they were circulated.Tang StampDescriptionYear/ Era3-line arch stamp1902-19154-line straight stamp with yearFeatures year of manufacture3-line straight stamp1916 the 1930s4-line straight stampThe 1930s mid-19453-line; non-italic fonts; short underline1946 19503-line; non-italic, full underline; no dots (USA., not U.S.A.)1960 the 1970s3-line stamp; full underline; dotted U.S.A.; italicsThe 1970s 1980s3-line stamp; dotted U.S.A.; mixed caps1989 2007Camillus Knife Tang Stamps and their Eras. Up the tang stamps training and issue dating knives 1975 and 1981 - collectors PRESERVING.... 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